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Corps Hangouts
Written by Don Rogerson
Hey Bill, I have been reading Lee and Don's memories of the places that they
hung out in those day's (The Early Days) well, we had our hangouts too. How
could you forget Randall's, gosh I think we put that old guy in an early
grave. We would sit in the furtherst booth, from his counter, just so he
had to walk the full length of the store,then order one soda, wait till he
brought it back, then order another. Then one night when we came in he just
pointed toward the door.If we had the girls with us he would wait on us, as
long as we sat in booths near to him, and he really was cranky at times.
Then there was Fred's at front and Grange, he was
okay. it was a good place to meet, and he had good stuff. Great parking.
Remember the day we were at the post, cleaning something for an up coming
show, and the guy watching the post (which was closed) asked if we would watch
the place while he went home for lunch. I remember very vividly all of us just
staring at one another, and a strange silence came over the place, until
someone finally said sure. It was a day to remember. We didn't really do
anything, but sit at the bar and drink beer. We were all 17 and 18,it was
great, no one got hurt, we didn't steal anything, the old guy came back
eventually, and we continued what we were cleaning. Oh, the group involved,
Teddy, Keenan, the Wards, McDonald, you, and of course me.
That same group would meet at the Wards, and go up and listen to Big Wardy's
tapes on that guy he made up, I think Jolly roger was his name. Tom really
needed some serious help from a shrink, the guy was really on another planet.
We would make so much noise up there old man Ward would come up, push open the
door and start screaming, you could not see him for all the smoke, he would
actually threaten all of us with bodily harm, and I think at times he really
meant it. When we went to a party anywhere, Tom and Chuck would eat handfuls
of hedge leaves so there breath would not smell. Well most of the time they
got sick from eating all the hedge leaves and would throw up on each other, then stand in front of their parents and swear they were not drinking. Always
got caught, it got so bad, that they would go home in shifts, with their own
stories, that didn't work either. They always said they were with me, then
when I came to the house, I got the third degree. It got so that you never
went to the Wards on a Sunday morning.
Then the real kicker was they told Chuck that I
was a bad influence on him, and they didn't want him to associate with me any
longer. How could anybody be a bad influance on Chucky Ward. We laughed (me
and Chuck) about that for years to come.
He told everybody that he was not allowed to play
with me anymore. He was a great guy, and we always had so much love and
respect for each other. God rest his soul.
There aren't to many organizations today that can
boast of friendships that went on 24-7 like those guys did.
I loved all of them more than they will ever know, and God knows,That I loved the Osmond Post Cadets.
There are so many stories from that group, (the Corps) I mean, I could go on
all day,
Please excuse me for rambling. Don Rogerson
The Dream Contest (and Misc)
The only Dream contest that I was in with Osmond
was in 1952. It was cancelled from the previous Sunday, because of rain I
guess, so they had it on a Wednesday night. We had a real fine corps that
year, a super horn line, even after losing Bob Adair, Penrod and Jim Meehan
from the first horn line. But we picked up Jack Woods, and Ron Serocimo to
replace them. Don Adair had taught a really hard, but excellent drill. The
drum line was excellent. It had the makings of a really great corps. So,
anyway we went to the Dream, and I remember having this really confident
feeling, about our chances. Standing on the kickoff line, was really special.
The stands there sort of rolled down at you, and gave the effect, that the
people were right on top of you, if Im not mistaken, the field ran on an angle
also.
Well they announced us, and the crowd gave us a
nice hand, and I remember thinking how proud I was to be exactly where I was.
We played the kickoff, which was one of Lee's product's. I don't think it had
a name, I'd sing it for you, but I don't have my teeth in yet. Then came off
the line with the Mounties, it was new that year. We formed small pinwheels,
eight in one line of the wheel. The first horns were in the first line, well
when we played the melody, the people really went nuts. Lee's music was always
a head over anyone else. Well, Holy Name was there, St Joes, Liberty Bell,
Irvington I believe, and a few others, I'm not sure, but I think we only beat
one corps.
Those shows were fixed so bad, and it was blatent.
That same year they cancelled a lot of shows because of Polio scares.
Something to do with Nationals also. Something else about that show,I
forgot my white socks,and nobody had an extra pair, I was panicy, and really
upset, so they sat me down and painted my feet white to the top of the ankles,
with shoe polish. Worked okay, just had cold feet.
At the post they always had a pinball machine,and
we would always wait for a new one to come in, then form a crowd around it,
get our trusty pen knife out, create a small hole in the bottom of it, stick a
straightened out hanger up there, find one of those side ramps that the ball
rolls through, hang the hanger on it and run up 50 or 60 games, and that would
last us the whole night.
Real funny one, we were in the post ,changing for
a parade, and two or three of the guys went into the head to go over a part,
all baritones. Unbeknown to them "Jack the Barfly" was in one of the
thrones doing his business.They came out, then he came out. His eyes were
crossed, hair was messed up, shirt half out, and his lip stained butt hanging
from his lower lip, cursing on high. Well we laughed for at least two days
over that. It was absolutly georgous, the
man was a real piece of work.
Talk to you later, Don Rogerson
The "Dream Contest" Bayonne, NJ, July 1952
Roosevelt Stadium, (Dream Contest)
Just hanging around
Hey Bill, Remember most Saturdays in the off season (afternoons) we would go down to Tookany creek by the railroad bridge to discuss all our worldly problems, usually around 10 of us. with quarts of course. You could bring any problem down there that you had, and it would be solved, or in most cases made worse. That was a great spot, you could make as much noise as you wanted, no body ever called the cops on us. We always ended the day with some one saying "Well we haven't picked on Liberty Bell yet", and if it was nice out we all jumped in the creek, well most of us,"yes with our clothes on". Remember the day Jack Keenan fell off the bridge, and we were all sitting there. I'm pretty sure it was you that said, "I guess we should go over and see how he is" It took a few seconds, and we all nodded in agreement. He was okay, the ground broke his fall. Its a shame he missed the water. But he was fine, he walked out better than he walked in. And you had a big hill to climb up to get out of there. Which took quite a while for most of us. Its still there, but they put a walking path through there. That would have never worked.
We loved to get invited to peoples houses, to us that was like being invited to the White House. We had someplace to go, especially if it was cold out. We always tried to be perfect gentleman, but there was always somebody that screwed up.(present company excluded) And if they had a nice Kitchen, it was great. I have no reason why, but there was always this facination for nice kitchens. It was funny, because if someone went to a party that you were not there, they would always say,"they had a great kitchen" did not take much to please those guys. I remember one time we were all up Fred Eckerd's house, just for a visit, and out of no where he say's "Want to see the kitchen" Everybody says Yea, lets see it. His Mom thought we were nuts, well she wasn't that far off.
I gotta go for a while, okay, my Depends needs changing. love Roge.
Hanging out at Hacketts Kitchen Standing: Chuck Ward Jack Keenan George Gaughan
SeatedBob Russ Charlie Hackett Ed Kiess Tom Ward Bob Dunn Jack Hackett Jim Fenerty
Some thoughts from Pat Roach to Roge
Hi Guy Just got
your e-mail address from Bill Beckmann.
Remember the
other bar between 5th and 6th just above Erie? Remember Keenan following
the taxi around wherever he went. I think the cabbie was scared and
finally stopped and screamed at him. Another time at 5th and Chew, we were
standing in the doorway of a store to get out of the rain. Jack saw the
store window had a small piece of glass that was broken, so he slid his hand
in and swiped a couple of ties
Tuutie-cue
riding around on his motorcycle playing his horn.
Some great
memories for sure. Probably a thousand more.
Pat
Hulmeville Swimming
Yo Bill, This is a real funny story. I was
talking with Nancy Keenan, and She brought it up also.
We went up to Hulmeville one Sunday, and a whole
bunch of us, including the girls swam over to the other side which was a
farmer's field, with real live cows. Well we all decided to run down this
field , through the cows and all and dive into the creek, it looked like a
river to me. Well the water wasn't right at the edge, you had to sort of
spring yourself off the edge of the field out to the water. Well directly
below was mud, at least two ft. thick, and maybe three ft. to the water.
Well down the incline we all went, holloring and screaming, bounceing and
diving into the water.
Well you all remember Tom Freidel don't you, big skinny Tom. (with the glasses, that he never removed, even in sword fights. Well we were all in the water paddling, waiting for Tom. He was not graceful by any means. He came running very crookedly if I remember, and tried springing too hard from the edge.The whole thing gave way, and instead of going out, he went straight down, head first in the mud. He did it so well, that he was in a perfect verticle position, with his feet sticking straight up, I think he had his sneakers on for protection from the cow dung, that made it even more funnier, remember in those days you wore high top black sneakers, without socks. Now you have to remember, we were watching this, and trying to swim at the same time. I was laughing so hard, I swore I was going under. Chicky Carr was right next to me, and he totally lost it. Now we are in the middle of this crick/river. He pulls himself up, and looks out at us,the glasses are still on him, and the mud is on both sides, and there is not an entire spot on his body that isn't mud, then he smiles and waves, and all you could see was his white teeth. I really did not think I was going to make it. I kept sinking every time I started to laugh. By helping each other we got back to the shore, then we really laughed even harder. Tommy was a great guy, we had a lot of laughs together, I miss him too. Roge
Tom Freidel
Good Times
Back in those days, we all wore pegged pants,
now these were not just pegged pants,they were "T Ms" or tailor
mades, and only in Kensington at Lou City, or Dinelli's. They came in
all shades, knee sizes, what kind of a rise you wanted. That meant how low
from the top of the pants did they put the belt loops. You bought your shoes
at Flagg Bros. at Germantown and Chelten Ave in
Germantown of course. Box toes, suedes(blue) and they had a standard leather
shoe that just about everyone wore. And of course a head full of hair, and
the infamous D.A. I remember St. Vinnies used to call us, The skinny guys
with the little asses,and the big hair. I'm sure you all remember Father
Denny, well in those days, Joe was the wearer of all the up to date
fashions, if it was new and fashionable, Joe had it. And he dressed and
looked impeccable no matter where he went.
Well Willie was having one of his weekend parties at 22 and a half Connecticut
Ave in Atlantic city this one weekend, and of course we all attended, as did
Joe Denny. Well he came in in his grayish blue sharkskin T.Ms. and this
golden( yes golden) garberdine shirt. He looked fabulous. Well as the night
progressed, and everyone was having their usuall good time, singing corps
songs, and making fun of mostly people that were not there. All of a sudden
the door opens, and two guys carry Joe Denny in. Well folks we all let out
this scream, there was Mister squared away, totally out of it, where ever he
was, or where ever he was laying, there was not one square inch of the
apparell that did not have a wrinkle in it.The golden shirt, looked like a
piece of tin foil that you would rollup in a ball, then try to straighten it
out. We got such a kick out of that, and poor Joe wasn't even awake.
God bless You Father Joe. We all love you very much, thanks for the memories. Roge
John Danks Joe Denny Dick McDonald
1953 Milwaukee Nationals
This corp as I said before many times, came out of
no where that year. Made up of the kids that were left over from the many
corps that were breaking up in the area. But they had this attitude of
"so what". We had gone through the season pretty well, losing state
on a penalty.Now we were off on the infamous Milwaukee trip. The corp had to
split up in Ohio because of those bloody buses breaking down. And it was
really hard to see that bus leave ahead of us with the individuals,and color
guard on it. Leaving us in this God forsaken town of Louisville Ohio. That
was so hard on everybody. One day we decided to have a parade down their main
street. Just humazoos and stuff.
This cop pulls up in front of us, gets out, and asks us just exactly what we
were doing. "Having a parade we answered" You need a permit to
do that he said. Well we said we just thought you folks would like some
entertainment. Not today he answered. Back to the bus we go. By this time it
had a very foul odor about it. The bus was finally fixed, and we were on our
way, and most of us thought we would never make it in time. But Bob Cwalino had a mission, not to stop till we got there. It was
absolutly awful You had to hold your bathroom duties for when he stopped for
gas, anything in between, you were out of luck,and he made sure everyone knew
that.
Well, I believe we pulled into the 4H park where we were staying around 10 or
11 am, and this was a really big, big, place, we just cruised around the lot
looking for the corps bus,and couldn't seem to find it, when all of a sudden
all the kids in the bus began singing,"For when the gray and White corp
fall in line" and we sang it at the top of our lungs. Still cruising, we
turned this corner, and saw our kids running from afar. They had heard us
screaming this song, and came running. Bob stopped the bus, and hugging, and
kissing went on for some time. We just had time to make the parade that was
scheduled for that day. I remember we merged with West Reading Police Cadets
at one point as a Pennsylvania thing. It worked pretty good. After the parade
is when the lipstick got mixed with the uniforms, and made such a mess on some
trousers. It had rained pretty heavy during the parade, and we all got pretty
wet, and I can't really remember if they were getting them dryed or cleaned
when it happened.
Well we went to preliminarys, and we really rocked, I mean big time rocked. We
were at the end of the day way ahead of our closest competition. And Vinnies
had the option as reigning Champs to take a bye if they wanted, I don't
remember if they did or not. But the word had spread to them how hot Osmond
was. Well for what ever reason, we went all the way back to where we were
staying. Did not take in mind the evening traffic coming back, were late, and
got a two point penelty. As we were walking in the gate Hymie was there
telling each one of us that we had a two point penalty. It was very depressing
to say the least, I often wonder if he had told no one what might have
happened. As we lined up on the ready line, Vinnies was half way down the
field, where we should have been. You could hear the crying and cursing up and
down the line. So much had happened to us this year, why weren't we allowed to
show the drum corp world how good we really were. One of the guys came down
the line screaming, I really can't remember who, "We are the Osmond Post
Cadets" lets take this trophy home. I felt so bad, for every one there.
We were good, yes, but as you went through the drill,and would pass one
another, you could see the tears running down a lot of cheeks.
With out the penelty.it would have been really close, and without the penalty,
with the corp spirit that we had at that point, we would have been National
Champions. God bless all those
kids where ever they may be, Love you all, Roge
(Note: See Rich Mohelski's "Memorable Moments" for more on the Milwaukee Trip)
Remembering Ernie Donnelly We are gonna miss Ernie. He was a good guy, and funny. We used to call him "No Ass", because he had no ass. His pants went straight down in the back, where his butt should have been. One day we made him pull his pants just to see for ourselves, and sure enough, all there was was this big crack, that had absolutly no curvature at all. Him and Chuck and I laughed a whole lot, he was just a great guy that would help you in any way that he could, and he loved Osmond, with a passion. He had this 39 plymouth, that he really liked a lot, and he took real good care of it. One day he comes around the post with this 41 Ford convertable. I mean this was a real piece of crap. One of the thugs from Olney (neighborhood) talked him into swapping him even up, and Ernie does it. Well there was about 5 of us there, and we were rolling on the street laughing that he had done this, finally he started laughing too. He said he liked it, and that was fine with us. God rest his soul, See ya Ern. Roge
Ernie was from the Bridesburg section of the city.He was originally from the Horn-Ross-Weiss drum and bugle corp, that was located in that part of the city. He came to Osmond in 1952, after the corp disbanded, with a few others, Harry Hall, Ed Holmes, Tom Parkins, were already there, as were a few others. He immediatly fit in with the guys, and was very attenative at practice, and taken back the first time Lee hollered at him, Lee also had this piercing stare that only Lee had. How serious it may be, depended on how long the stare was, or he would start singing it back to you while constantly slamming the sole of his shoe into the floor. That could be kind of scarey for a new guy. Ernie said Does he get upset like that all the time? No, I said only when all of us (section) are not together, or you don't know your part. What do you do he said. Practice I said. How about the second time, he says. Tell him you have to go to the head. He said, he won't buy that, I said, no, you're right, he won't. He was fine, and an intregral part of the 1953 corps. We all miss our fellow drum corps friends, when they pass, because they wern't just friends, they were drum corps people. We all gave up a lot for something, that paid no money, or special favors, to anyone, just the gratification of being a part of something that was so special to us, and other kids just like us, that if done correctly, could develop them into being champions.
And Ernie Donnelly was a person like that.
We all love you Ernie, save us a seat.
Your friend, Don Rogerson
Ray Mountain stories
Ray Mountain and Tom Cleighton
Hi Folks
Yesterday,we lost another great drum corp friend Ray Mountain, Ray was a
great guy,he just blended with everyone. Always with a smile on his face,and
ready to tell you a good joke.He also was a very talented baritone horn,in
both Osmond, and the Reilly Raiders. We called him Shadow in Osmond, where
that originally came from I really don't know,but it really seamed to fit him
well. Ray was noted back then for always being late for leaving for the show
we might be in that particular week.
One time always sticks in my mind. It was an afternoon show,and the weather
was not really good that day. Well we were all at the post, waiting to leave.
Hymie called the people running the show,and they informed him that they were
canceling.
We were all
disapointed, but soon were all dancing ,and sitting around shooting the bull.
Maybe a half hour passes,and the door opens, and in steps Ray, standing on the
top landing.Now all of you remember the noise that door made when shutting.So
as it did,everyone turned to see who was coming in,we all look up,and everyone
starts breaking up. He hollers,What! Then they all procede to tell him he's
not only late, the show was called a half hr. ago. Then he started to
smile,then came the laugh.
Ray Mountain was very special people,and a very dear friend to all of us.A lot
of us had the privlege to be with him in both corps. He played in some great
horn lines,and having him there made them that much better.
We will all miss him dearly,but never forget our dear friend
"Shadow"
Don Rogerson
A "Shadow" Mountain Story by Pat Roach
At
Joe Roach's 8th grade graduation party, he had quite a few guys and girls
over. They played games, including kissing games, while Mother and Dad and I
sat out in the kitchen behind the swinging door. Ray Mountain crashed the
party. He was in a higher grade and wasn’t invited, but he knew everybody
there, so he invited himself. He ended up practically running the party,
including being in charge of the flashlight during one of the kissing games.
Pat Roach
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